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Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat - 7/13/20

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Ben Clemens

2:59

Regardless of what it says about your other skills

Curious

3:00

Jay's blurb about Alonso is maybe OK in the abstract; but I could curate a list of many dozen completely unnecessary asides about the Mets from Jay and a lot of other FG authors. Snark for the sake of snark, with minimal or no added value. Every time I get accosted by a request to become a member, I think about how those make me feel. Though you all have the right to your biases, absolutely!

Ben Clemens

3:00

Hm, I'll try to be very careful in saying this, but I do think that at times the FanGraphs general editorial line has been more lolMets than is maybe merited

We're all individuals and there's no group editorial position on the Mets

3:01

But it's tempting, as an Online Baseball Person, to tap into the lolMets zeitgeist

As a former Mets season ticket holder, I find them to be too-often maligned by writers overall

I've quite liked some of Brodie's moves

3:02

But at the end of the dya, I don't think that our positions are crazy or anything. The Mets are buffoons a decent portion of the time

And we're trying to be entertaining, and the world seems to, overall, love a good pile on

3:02

Follow up re: Robert...why are you down on him long term? What do you expect from him in say 3 years, either in stat line or player comparison?

Ben Clemens

3:03

Eh, I think I would say that for someone where I'm not quite sure what their carrying tool will be, I'd want better minor league numbers to get the kind of hype Robert has amassed

I don't think he's goin to be BAD or anything

3:04

but if he's what ZiPS says he is this year (and leave out defense, ZiPS loooooves his defense), that's a league average hitter who strikes out too much. He'll develop from there, but a league average hitter in center is a nice player but not a stud

If people were projecting him to put up a string of 3 WAR years I'd be like

Yeah cool that makes sense to me

And maybe I have the wrong read on people's overall view of Robert

3:05

But I think he's a high floor type who will make some All Star teams, not an MVP candidate type

Not with high certainty, of course

Saying things like that with certainty is basically impossible

tmh

3:05

Do any ofcCasey Mize, Forrest Whitley or Alex Kirilloff make their debut this year?

Ben Clemens

3:05

I'm gonna say Mize yes, Whitley no, Kiriloff, gosh, I guess no but I'm not sure there

3:06

I think that Mize is the kind of player where that back end year of control isn't that valuable due to his age and position

And he's clearly ready

Less clear if Whitley is ready, and the Twins aren't short for outfielders or anythin this year

3:07

Does Bieber, Clevinger, and Carrasco make the Indians a force to be reckoned with, or will it be a tough road to the playoffs?

Ben Clemens

3:07

Yes to both

They'll be a force to be reckoned with, and they don't have to play the AL East at all which is a big boon in the Wild Card race

3:08

But the AL Central is a 2.5-team race this year and the Twins are stacked

I think I like the Indians as my second Wild Card team

All things considered

James

3:08

which is more egregious: Scott Boras or Jaye Z getting a PPP loan?

Ben Clemens

3:08

Late to this one but boy, I would love to see the full list of people who got loans

It's all comical

3:09

I'd say Boras is the more egregious of the two, but I'm not confident in that assessment

Roger

3:09

Who are your 2020 ROY winners?

Ben Clemens

3:09

Not to spoil our staff predictions, but for the NL I'm gonna be a homer and say Dylan Carlson, for the AL I'm going to say Robert because he's the rookie I'm most sure will get a full year

3:10

Lux, of course, is the chalk pick for NL RoY

But I just want to believe when it comes to Carlson

Call me Fox Mulder

Logan

3:11

Re: PPP: The Treasury has you covered: https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/cares-act/assistance-for-small...

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